Episode 003 - Krista Eyler

In this episode, I welcome Krista Eyler! Krista hails from Kansas City, and shares her stories about seeing several musicals growing up that inspired her to become the singer/songwriter/actress/producer she is now! 

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Episode 003: Krista Eyler

Lindsey Dinneen: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome to Artfully Told, where we share true stories about meaningful encounters with art.

[00:00:06] Krista Eyler: [00:00:06] I think artists help people have different perspectives on every aspect of life.

[00:00:12] Roman: [00:00:12] All I can do is put my heart in to the world.

[00:00:15] Elizabeth: [00:00:15] It doesn't have to be perfect the first time. It doesn't have to be perfect ever, really. I mean, as long as you, you're enjoying doing it and you're trying your best, that can be good enough.

[00:00:23] Elna: [00:00:23] Art is something that you can experience with your senses and that you just experiences as so beautiful.

[00:00:31] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:00:31] Hello everyone. Welcome to Artfully Told. I'm Lindsey, and I am so excited to have a very special guest on our show today. Her name is Krista Eyler, and she is an extraordinary woman. She has done so much for the arts, not only in Kansas. City, but her reach is extending far beyond. She has co-written, co-produced her own musical, which was incredible. And I'm saying that cause I got to see it and I just love it. It's so charming. But she is constantly creating and innovating and bringing so much joy to the world. So I am so excited, Krista, that you're here. Thank you so much for joining me today.

[00:01:14] Krista Eyler: [00:01:14] Thank you, Lindsey, and thank you for those kind words. That was very sweet way to start my day.

[00:01:19] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:01:19] Of course. Of course. So Krista, do you mind just sharing a little bit about who you are and what you're up to these days and just?

[00:01:28] Krista Eyler: [00:01:28] Sure, you know, it's funny to kind of sum up when someone says, you know, what do you do? Hard question to answer when, you know, at the age I am--43--you say, what do you, what do you do, Krista? Now there are things you get paid for and then there are things that you do. And I think as an artist, we all have to do a lot of things.

[00:01:54] Now what I would say I am--I'm a mom, first, of two teenage boys. I'm a wife. I am a composer and an actress. And, I like to write. I mean, I would probably classify myself as a singer before anything else, but you see, it's hard to, it's hard to sum up, so I like to say that I'm a composer, actress, singer, mom, wife... How's that?

[00:02:21] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:02:21] It's perfect. I love it.  Yeah, and so just tell us, a little bit about the different musicals. I know, obviously you got to produce one. What was that, two years ago now? Oh my gosh.

[00:02:32] Krista Eyler: [00:02:32] Well, it was just, actually last summer. You mentioned--the musical's called "Overture," and it was about the 1953 season of the Kansas City Philharmonic. And the Philharmonic was kind of the, you know, the father of our current, Kansas City Symphony. So we had the great pleasure of taking 19 Kansas City people to the New York Musical Festival last summer. We were accepted as one of the 10 full-length productions and we won Best of Fest Production there. We won the Audience Choice Award. There are two kind of big festival awards and we won one of them and we had quite an adventure. It was an extraordinary, from start to finish, kind of three year endeavor.

[00:03:20] And, my co-writer, Barb Nichols, she's also a local Kansas City director, and she and I have known each other for over 20 years. So our, our business partnership is very easy and we're also good friends. And, so just this last--after we got back from New York, we had an opportunity to buy a building on Southwest Boulevard, and we turned it into rehearsal studios. So we have a studio now called Sharp Women's Studios. That's the name of our LLC, and we're down on the Boulevard and this whole quarantine stuff--has messed up our entire plan. I know that is a small, small thing when there are so many people who have been suffering, truly suffering in both their physical health, emotional health, and their financial health. So I'm very grateful that we have a space. We've had a safe space to go and build things and have meetings and have social distancing. So we're  very, very fortunate. I feel very fortunate, to be in the position that I am when I know a lot of other artists have, it's so much harder than I do.

[00:04:25]Lindsey Dinneen: [00:04:25] Sure. Yeah, it's a challenge for everybody, but you have a really positive outlook on it, but it is difficult.

[00:04:32]Krista Eyler: [00:04:32] My brain likes to be busy all the time. I really honestly don't like to rest a lot. My battery does kind of recharging. So, my battery wants to go. And so when I have gigs canceled, or acting gigs postponed or flat out canceled, it's really, it's a blow, you know. It's one of those: I worked for that part and I got that part and now it's gone.

[00:04:57] And I think artists across our city are feeling exactly the same thing cause their gig has been canceled. Their side gigs have been canceled. So what do you do when your gig has been canceled? Your side gig's canceled. That's hard. It's a difficult time that we are dealing with, but you know, art survives and art goes on because if you're an artist, you just keep making stuff.

[00:05:22] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:05:22] Yeah, it's compulsory. You have to, yeah. Well, thank you for that perspective. I would just love to hear stories that you have about encounters with art. Something maybe that kind of stood out to you that made an impact on you as a person or on your work.

[00:05:41]Krista Eyler: [00:05:41] I will just speak from my experience. No, my background was in television journalism. I was a news reporter for five years with Channel Nine News here in Kansas City, and before that I was a reporter in Topeka, and journalism was kind of my track.

[00:05:55] I had always been a singer from the time I was four years old in church, and I've always sung, always played guitar and piano, and so, but I just took a different career path. So now, now that I'm doing full time acting and writing and performing, it's quite a different, quite a different world.

[00:06:15]I don't really have a process of creating it. Like I said, my brain is always working. And so I feel like an idea will come. Usually it's a musical idea, something for the stage. And I'll, Barb and I'll sit down and we'll just kind of flesh the idea out as much as we can to see if it's worth doing.

[00:06:37] And we, one of the shaping memories I had was: In 1983 I think it was, Yul Brynner came through Kansas City in a touring company of "The King and I," and it was down at The Midland. And if you've ever been to the Midland Theater, it's a more intimate theater, but it's very steep. It has lots of levels.

[00:07:00] And my mom had kind of splurged to buy a tickets for my brother and I, and for my mom to go see "The King and I." And so we had really good seats and I remember so much red in the room and how the seats felt. And I remember there he was--like, he came out on stage and stopped the show. And, it's one of those very big kind of very much a sense memory for me that it was magical, you know, theater that came very magical for me.

[00:07:31] Another one of those moments that I had was where I saw, Ted Neeley and Carl Anderson in "Jesus Christ Superstar." And they're the ones that you see in the movie, if you're not familiar with the show, but they were the originals, for the movie, and then spent their careers touring with "Jesus Christ Superstar."

[00:07:49] I have never quite experienced a show that was stopped twice because of applause.  I mean, these two men in their prime --I got to see them in their prime. Carl Anderson is now deceased and Ted Neeley's in his seventies. But it was extraordinary, the power of something on stage to affect my emotions so deeply.

[00:08:09] And it's one of those memories I have that I can access any time. And it just expresses to me the magic of musical theater because that's--that's my greatest love is musical theater. And another memory: I got to see Bernadette Peters in "Gypsy" on Broadway. My mom and I went and, her little, she's a tiny little person and she's just the tiniest little China doll of a person.

[00:08:37]And as soon as people heard her voice from the back of the house, she walked through the house where the, you know, the "Sing Out, Louise," everybody stood up and stopped the show for a good three minutes applauding her. They did the same thing after she did "Rose's Turn" and I could, I mean, I could barely contain myself. It was just one of those things where you feel like you're, you're crying and you're jumping out of your skin, and everything about it is so perfect. And I, I've learned--watching her, she uses every little bit of that little body, from the top of her head to her toes, to convey emotion. And just so physical.

[00:09:11] I really, there's, those are some very specific memories for me, both as a writer and an actress to go use your full instrument, whether it is, singing or acting or writing, you try to use your full instrument. When I'm writing, I sometimes tell myself like, "What else? You know, what else can I do to this? What else does this song need? What is it missing?" Or I'll record it all, put it in my phone so I can listen to it in my car speakers, and then I go, "Oh, that's what's missing." There's a string section missing, or I should have cymbals there, or, you know, it's just--I feel like writing and composing--I mean, you're a dancer, you know, it's a full body experience.

[00:09:51] Whether you're a dancer or not, but I can describe it as that--anything I do when I'm creating, it's kind of a full body mind, body, spirit experience.

[00:10:02]Lindsey Dinneen: [00:10:02] I love that. And I love the idea of what else, what else can there be to make it even more robust, more inspirational, more touching? I love that. What a great perspective on...

[00:10:14] Krista Eyler: [00:10:14] I hope so. You know, I have my favorite instruments that make me either have goosebumps or tear up or, you know, music can break your heart. And when we say that in "Overture," because it's true, your heart, because if you put an oboe with a cello and a piano and a French horn, I mean those are the break-your-heart instruments: gorgeous.

[00:10:36] Put them in a layer. Then it just gives such--it's like eating an awesome piece of cake. It's just so pleasurable that your mind, a body--it's just like all the endorphins come, and when... I think I had a moment when I wrote something, and you know when you write music and you have to listen to it over and over and over and over again, which gets very laborious--but I remember a song came on that I wrote, and it didn't register as my, my song. It was just a song that was on, and I remember getting goosebumps because of the chord formations and I was like, well, all right, let's keep it.

[00:11:18] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:11:18] Yeah.

[00:11:20]Krista Eyler: [00:11:20] I'm the harshest critic, of course. I'm, I'm pretty hard on myself, which I probably shouldn't be, but I am.

[00:11:29] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:11:29] Every artist I think has that.

[00:11:31] Krista Eyler: [00:11:31] I think artists are, I mean, I think we're sensitive and I think we're hard on ourselves. And I think being the age I am, it's given me some perspective of--give yourself some grace--and I never think I'm going to be the best at something and I probably never will be the best at something, but I'm going to do my best whatever I'm doing because there's always going to be something, someone with a different cool idea that you didn't think of, or there'll be able to do something cool that you didn't, aren't able to do. And I think I've been able to accept that more. In the last five, six years to stop being so competitive in art and just appreciate and affirm in other people what they're doing.

[00:12:12] I mean, I learned from going, "Oh, that was a great layering of sound, or oh my gosh, did you hear how she's saying that?" I'm trying to be better about building other people up , making a point to note it. "Yeah, that's really good," because I mean, I like to be encouraged. I imagine other people like to be encouraged too.

[00:12:33] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:12:33] Oh, yeah, absolutely. Did that come about, do you think, in more of a director role? I mean, is that something that kind of developed being in a leadership position?

[00:12:42] Krista Eyler: [00:12:42] I just think I wanted to stop being so prideful about art. You know, I think we've all met artists who are arrogant, and we've met artists who are very humble, and I want to be more like the humble artists who, if there's something that I do that it touches somebody else or makes them have a moment of joy or takes them out of their normal, normal thought patterns into something really cool, then, I want to do that. But I want to do it in a way that's open to other artists, and is friendly to other artists and kind of just affirms what's good and other artists, because there's so much competition. And I was so, you know--acting is so competitive. I mean, dance is competitive. Any art form, it's competitive. Yeah, and just like my journalism jobs were competitive, you know, I had to be competitive.  I would never call myself laid back. I can be a pretty intense person when I'm working on a project. but hopefully I'm a nice person.

[00:13:45]Lindsey Dinneen: [00:13:45] And so what was the experience like? I mean, I am a little biased-- I have had the wonderful experience of seeing "Overture" actually a couple times. You kind of spearheaded this whole project from start to finish in so many aspects and then you starred in it. What was it like when you took your final bow at that, the first time that you got to perform the entire thing ? What was that like?

[00:14:10]Krista Eyler: [00:14:10] It was very special. I mean, when you worked so hard on something and we had so much help fundraising, helping us fundraise, because musicals are freaking expensive. We had so much help. And when you're standing out there and people are appreciating, or they've been touched by something that you've done--it's, it's, it's a very strange but wonderful feeling. I remember walking out on stage and it was funny -- not funny--it was a bit panicky. It was, we were at Fringe and we were opening the show, I think might've been the first show-- all the mics went out. We had no sound, no sound. And I remember I'm and I was just about to go on and I have the opening song in "Overture" and it really just, there's a chord roll, and then I sing and that's it.

[00:15:02] And I'm a woman of faith and I remember feeling very uptight for about 30 seconds cause we were, we were only at like, we were at places, we were holding. And, I remember having a moment of, "Oh my gosh, we have no mics. We have no mics for the orchestra, we have no mics for people." And then I went, "Nope." I went, "Okay, Jesus. I see. I see. And I'm going to sing without a mic. And all the other people are going to sing without a mic because you've allowed me to train to have a bigger voice and don't need a mic."

[00:15:33] So I, I turned from panic to--we're just gonna do this. We're just gonna do this. And everybody else, you know, we had an amazing team and everybody else was like, yup, that's what we're doing. I mean, I think you lead by example by working harder than everyone else, or as hard as anyone else. I kind of like to work harder or try and just not complain.

[00:16:03] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:16:03] That's a hard one. Yeah.

[00:16:05] Krista Eyler: [00:16:05] Especially like in New York where we were running on zero sleep, changing the show almost every day, managing, you know, driving back and forth to Brooklyn, unloading every single day. It was physically exhausting and mentally exhausting. You just gotta dig deep. Well, you gotta dig down and just do it and try not to be a jerk to the people.

[00:16:31] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:16:31] Right. Right. Yeah!

[00:16:32] Krista Eyler: [00:16:32] It was pretty cool to open in New York, I was sitting on the side of the stage at The Signature Theatre, and we were at places and I looked around, you know, I looked across the stage and I saw my friends and I looked at the pit. You know, my brother was our accompanist and all my friends, all my friends were there. Oh, and so I looked, it was like--we're in New York on 42nd Street and we're about to open a show that I wrote and how fun is this? You know? That was a special--that's a moment I can't replicate ever in my life. Yeah. It's one of those where you, I think it's rare when you get to know that that's one of those moments in your life that you're going to look back on and when you recognize it and give thanks for it. And I remember just sitting there giving thanks for it going, "This is crazy. How did I get here?" And hearing them on the stage left of The Signature Theatre stage about to go sing my songs--it was so, it was surreal and marvelous.

[00:17:30]Lindsey Dinneen: [00:17:30] There couldn't be anything like that moment. That is, that is wonderful.

[00:17:35] Krista Eyler: [00:17:35] No, and I'll never have another one like it probably in my life. So when you have those moments, it's good to notice it. There's a line, and I, I won't, I promise I won't curse on your podcast.  There's a line in my favorite movie from "The Color Purple" that says, "I think it P I S S E S God off if you walk by the color purple and you don't notice it," and I feel that way very much in my life. If you don't notice those small moments of brilliant color, then I think you're not being grateful for what you have. And I'm trying to be grateful for those small and big moments.

[00:18:12] Especially now, these last few months have been really hard, and it's, I think it's very hard to keep a positive attitude. You know, I've had days where I've cried, days where I've been happy. it's just, this is unprecedented time for artists especially, and everybody is just trying to find the happy where they can.

[00:18:32] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:18:32] Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely agree. I love that. Well, I have a couple of questions that I like to ask my guests, if that's okay. So how do you personally define art or what is art to you?

[00:18:48] Krista Eyler: [00:18:48] What is art to me? I think it's making something from nothing. And no, there's a  song called "Finishing the Hat," and it talks about that creation of, you know--I made a hat where there never was a hat, and art to me is really just that. And I'm glad I rhymed those two lines. It's making something from nothing that hopefully will make somebody else feel something very important or have a very visceral, emotional response. I mean, everything I write musically is to reach someone else, is to entertain someone else, is to give, you know, that pleasure in your ears from some really great music and singing.

[00:19:38]That's, that's kind of how I see art. You know what? I'm not a scholar of art. I'm not a scholar of dance. I'm not a scholar of music theory. I'm basically not a scholar of anything except the raising my children, but when it comes to art, I just, I just really feel great satisfaction when you make something that wasn't there before and then it's there, then you've brought it into existence and then you wonder why it was not there before.

[00:20:11] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:20:11] I love that. Because you hadn't created it yet, I guess!

[00:20:17] Krista Eyler: [00:20:17] I hadn't created it. Every once in a while I'll wake up with a song in my head. And I'll go, "What is that song?" I was like, "I know that song. What is that song?" Then I went, "Oh, I haven't written it yet. Oh, I haven't written that song yet." That's happened to me several times.

[00:20:33]Lindsey Dinneen: [00:20:33] That is awesome.

[00:20:34] Krista Eyler: [00:20:34] Weird, isn't it?

[00:20:35] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:20:35] No, I love it. It doesn't happen to me, but, but I love it. Okay, what do you think is the most important role of an artist?

[00:20:47] Krista Eyler: [00:20:47] I think artists help people in the world, see things in a different way. I think. I think artists help people have different perspectives on every aspect of life. I mean, what would we do without, you know, the great playwrights who have shown us corners of the world that I will never see or make music from different countries that I, I didn't grow up in that tradition, so I would never have heard it. I mean, an artist's job is to enrich life for others. I don't, I mean, I inherently, I think the creation of art is kind of selfish because we have to, it comes from our brain, comes from our hand.

[00:21:31] We're very happy or sad with it. But I really think art is, for me, it's so cliche, but art is for everyone and artists need to create for people out in the world who are non-artists, so they can see a different perspective of the world--they can hear something, see something, do something different that will be better and change, possibly even change your mind and then change your, how you operate in your daily life. I mean, that is a profoundly important thing that art can do, is change how people think. And I mean, that's powerful. It's very powerful. Yeah.

[00:22:08] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:22:08] Yeah. No, it absolutely is. Okay. I love that answer. Okay. And, my last question is, I'll explain the words I'm going to use because it's--might not be very clear--but do you think, just in your own personal opinion, do you think that art should be exclusive or inclusive? And those words I know are a little odd to use, but I'll just define that a little bit more. So exclusive being, sort of, the artist creates something, puts it out there and then doesn't give a whole lot of description. Versus inclusive, being more like, can you tell us your inspiration behind it or what the title or whatever. How do you feel about that?

[00:22:48] Krista Eyler: [00:22:48] I always prefer things that are inclusive. You know, an artist can create something and put a painting up on a wall and it has deep, deep significance, but as just a lay person in society, if I walk by and all I see is red--then I would really like to be connected to a piece if you would explain it to me. I mean, I think that's the selfish part of art as well--"I'm not going to explain myself."

[00:23:14] I was like, "Well, that's kinda dumb. Why would you not explain it to me? So I love it as much as you do." I think that's also an artist personality. I think every art is different, and if an artist is afraid of what someone might say of their work, then they'll just say, "I don't need to explain it to you. It is what it is." And I think I agree with some of that. Like when I write music, I don't want someone to come along and change it cause that's what was in my head, but I certainly will try to explain it. If someone said, "I don't understand why that--that sounds weird--why is that there?" And I said, "Well, it kind of goes along with what's being sung."

[00:23:50] I will always go on the side of more communication and more arts understanding because, especially I think in the Midwest, if you--there are so many inner circles, there are inner circles and inside jokes with theater and musical theater and plays and dance references and art references, and if you're not included in that--then I think art's a real turnoff.

[00:24:13] You know, with dance, I will admit my complete lack of knowledge. I mean, I love, I love to tap dance, but I'm, I don't know anything about ballet. I mean, I know nothing about the greats other than what I've read or picked up on my own. I know Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater is my favorite dance troupe in the whole entire world because I've gotten to experience their work over and over and over watching it. And I also had some explanation behind it, so I knew what was going on. Like with a lot of ballet, I don't know what's going on with opera. I don't know what is happening. I, my brain just goes, "Okay, I'm done."

[00:24:53] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:24:53] Sure.

[00:24:54] Krista Eyler: [00:24:54] I will try and try and try to have patience and focus, but if it's not explained to me, then I have no clue, which leads to no interest.

[00:25:03] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:25:03] Right.

[00:25:03] Krista Eyler: [00:25:03] So I think art should be inclusive--as inclusive as possible. The more understanding someone can bring to their work, the more I will be drawn to it. I think that's just me though. I mean, a lot of people are just like, "Well, it's my art and I'll do what I want and take it."

[00:25:22]Lindsey Dinneen: [00:25:22] Well, that's excellent. Thank you so much. I just love your perspective. And you know, just on a personal note, cause again, I've, I've had the pleasure of watching your work ,and I just wanna say thank you so much for creating art because, as someone who's been on the receiving end of it, I have to say that I've been very inspired and you've brought a lot of joy to your audiences, so thank you for that.

[00:25:47] Krista Eyler: [00:25:47] I appreciate those kind words that, you know, I don't write complicated things. I hopefully write things that reach people in an emotional way that's positive and hopeful --even, you know, even when there is pain, I like to talk about, you know, redemption after the pain. So, it's been a pleasure talking with you, Lindsey.

[00:26:08] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:26:08] Yeah. Well, and, okay, so, is there a way that we can connect with you? Do you have any future projects coming up you'd like to tell us about?

[00:26:18] Krista Eyler: [00:26:18] I do, and I have written, we finished our second musical called "The Sparkletones" inspired by--it takes place in 1969, Kansas. It's a singing group of four women who kind of gets stuck in a diner, and a lot changes in all of their lives in one night. And the story was inspired by my mom who's sang in a Sweet Adelines Group in Kansas in the sixties and she kept in touch with her other Sparkletones. People threw a round-robin letter series, which is one person writes a letter to the second person, the second person, right, puts their letter in, and it kind of goes around, and they've been doing that for over 40 years. So, I kind of too--inspired by her story and the letters and got to work on a musical, and we're going to debut it next March at the Johnson County Arts and Heritage Center.

[00:27:09] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:27:09] Oh, that's so exciting. Awesome.

[00:27:12] Krista Eyler: [00:27:12] I'm in the show this time. I'm not a lead. So that takes the pressure off me to be involved. We, we have a very strong cast and creative team and it's going to be a great show. It's going to be fun.

[00:27:27] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:27:27] That is exciting. And so if people want to, kind of keep up with that and keep up with some of your other work, because I know you, again, you're multifaceted, where can they connect with you.

[00:27:38] Krista Eyler: [00:27:38] They can find me on Facebook, just under my name, Krista Eyler, or through Sharp Women Studios. All of that's on Facebook. We also have a website called sharpwomen.org, so I'm, I'm easy to find.

[00:27:59] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:27:59] Excellent. Okay, well, perfect. Well, thank you again so much, Krista. I really appreciate your perspective.  And again, on behalf of myself because I've gotten to experience it--but on behalf of everyone who's gotten to experience your art, I do want to say thank you because I do think that there's a lot of value, in creating art and sharing it.

[00:28:20]Krista Eyler: [00:28:20] Thank you for having me.

[00:28:21] Lindsey Dinneen: [00:28:21] All right, well, have an amazing day and thank you to everyone who has listened to this episode, and we will catch you next time.

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Intro & Outro Music Credits:

Bad Ideas (distressed) by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3412-bad-ideas-distressed-
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